DISCLAIMER: ALL COMMENTS MADE BY ME, TEDDY JACOBSON WHO IS A TRIGGER SPECIALIST ARE MY OPINION ONLY. I AM ONLY DEDICATED TO TELLING THE HONEST GUN OWNER WHAT I BELIEVE IS TRUE. IN A WORLD OF TOTAL BS, YOU WILL FIND STRAIGHT HONEST TALK FROM ME AND MY EXPERIENCE, MY ACTION WORK IS SECOND TO NONE.
Beretta 21A Bobcat
Here are some photos of the Beretta 21A Bobcat Pistol:
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I like this little pistol. It has a Double Action/Single Action trigger, so you can carry a round in the chamber, and not be worried about accidentally firing it. Yet at the same time, all the subsequent shots will be quick single action style.
The weight is about 11.5 ounces. Because 22 cartridges weigh less than 380 cartridges, the loaded weight is nearly the same as the loaded weight of my Kel-Tec P3AT. The Kel-Tec holds 6 rounds in its magazine, plus another in the chamber. The 21A holds 7 rounds in its magazine, plus another round in the chamber.
Of course the 380 is larger and heavier than the 22 round, and will do more damage to a "bad guy." The 22 cartridge, especially if you use a high velocity "stinger" or some such, will be faster than most 380 bullets. It IS possible to use a 22 for self-defense, especially if it is easy to shoot, and if you are thereby able to be more accurate than with a more powerful pistol. Shot placement is the most important factor in a gun fight.
The Beretta Bobcat has a "tip-up barrel," which makes it easy to chamber a round, or to clear the chamber of a round. It is actually never necessary to "rack" the slide, because of this feature. This makes it a good pistol for a person with weak arms or hands.
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FROM THE NAA MESSAGE BOARD. SANDY IS THE OWNER OF NORTH AMERICAN ARMS.
Sandy
Message Board Member
Username: Sandy
Post Number: 62
Registered: 01-2003Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 05:19 am:
Kenneth - You couldn't be any more mistaken. We are now producing the 32ACP/25NAA Guardians in house and are just completing our relationship with Kahr for the machining of the large frame Guardian. During this conversion we have instituted several manufacturing changes, including squaring the breechface for more reliable extraction, crowning the barrel and broach-cutting the rifling, amongst others. We will continue to make improvements in this and all our products when and as the opportunity presents itself.
Stopping production? Rubbish.
Honk honk!
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TEDDY JACOBSON's RESPONSE - THIS IS A MUST READ RESPONSE
WELL SANDY CHISHOLM, WHO IS THE OWNER OF NAA ARMS, HOW ABOUT TELLING PEOPLE THE TRUTH ABOUT WHOS IDEA THIS WAS ABOUT THE BREECH FACE AND THE CROWN AND THE RIFLING. STOP THE BS - IT WAS MY IDEA AS I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU THIS FOR YEARS. YOU REFUSED TO BUY BETTER SPRINGS BECAUSE OF MONEY AND NOW IT HAS COST YOU DEARLY. I CAN NOT FEEL SORRY FOR YOU, YOU AND YOUR CRONIES THOUGHT YOU KNEW IT ALL, BUT I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG, ADMIT IT...
WHY WOULD YOU SEND THREE OR MORE EXTRA PARTS TO GUARDIAN OWNERS WHEN THEIR ORIGINAL PARTS BROKE, THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE YOU KNEW THEY WOULD BREAK AGAIN BECAUSE THEY WERE SUB STANDARD. YOU WERE TOLD BY ME THE SPRINGS WERE INFERIOR. YOU TOLD ME IN PERSON TO MY FACE AT THE NRA SHOW THAT YOU HAD NO INTENTION OF CHANGING SPRING COMPANIES AND BUYING CHROME SILICON SPRINGS THAT WERE DESIGNED BETTER.
I CAN NOT RECOMMEND THE NAA GUARDIAN AT THIS TIME ALONG WITH GUN TEST MAGAZINE WHO SAID THEY DID NOT LIKE THE "GUARDIAN". I RECOMMEND THE KEL-TEC AT HALF THE PRICE WHICH HAS A PROPER BREECH FACE AND BETTER RIFLING AND A BETTER CROWN AND IT INCORPORATES AN EJECTOR. THE GUARDIAN DOES NOT HAVE AN EJECTOR. THE KEL-TEC SLIDE LOCKS BACK AND IT ALSO HAS SPRINGS MADE OUT OF CHROME SILICON WIRE WHICH IS SUPERIOR. IT ALSO FIRES FROM A LOCKED BREECH AND THE TAKE DOWN PIN DOES NOT BREAK LIKE YOUR INFERIOR GUARDIAN SLIDE RELEASE BUTTON THAT IS SUB CONTRACTED OUT. IS IT MADE BY "TAURUS ???
ALL I HAVE EVER ASKED FROM YOU IS HONESTY. I STILL HAVE NOT GOTTEN STRAIGHT HONEST ANSWERS. WILL YOU NOW REPLACE EVERYONES OLD INFERIOR GUARDIAN WITH YOUR UPDATED VERSION AT NO CHARGE ???? THIS IS THE LEAST YOU CAN DO...
I AM STILL CONVINCED THAT MANY OF THE POSITIVE COMMENTS ON THE NAA MESSAGE BOARD ARE WRITTEN BY FACTORY WORKERS USING PHONY NAMES TO HELP THEIR SALES. I DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD THEY SAY....AGAIN THIS IS MY OPINION ONLY.
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Kenneth
Message Board Member
Username: Kenneth
Post Number: 78
Registered: 01-2005Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 08:42 pm:
"Kenneth - You couldn't be any more mistaken. We are now producing the 32ACP/25NAA Guardians in house and are just completing our relationship with Kahr for the machining of the large frame Guardian. During this conversion we have instituted several manufacturing changes, including squaring the breechface for more reliable extraction, crowning the barrel and broach-cutting the rifling, amongst others. We will continue to make improvements in this and all our products when and as the opportunity presents itself.
Stopping production? Rubbish.
Honk honk!"
Sandy,
will all these improvements be retroactively offered to those who purchased Guardians previous to said improvements?
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Monday, October 09, 2006
NAA Guardian Rifling - WHERE IS IT ???
Monday, October 09, 2006
NAA Guardian - Breech Face Problem - HOW ABOUT REPLACING EVERYONES EXTRACTOR AND SLIDE...
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BERETTA BOBCAT
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Quality pocket pistols.
The same dedication to advanced design, uncompromising quality and strict quality control that make the 92F, Cougar and Cheetah such international standouts is found in all Beretta small caliber, pocket-size pistols. Simplicity, safety and practical use are their best qualities.
Practical and Simple.
User-friendly design is common to all Beretta small frames. The exclusive tip-up barrel allows the user to easily load a round directly into the chamber. It also assists in the safe clearing of the pistol by allowing a live round to be easily removed from the chamber and the bore quickly checked. Jamming and stovepiping problems are virtually eliminated by the open slide design shared by all small frame Berettas.
Advanced Materials.
Keeping an eye on quality helps keep Beretta small caliber semi-automatics out front. Beretta pistols in the 21 Series utilize the toughest of forgings for their barrels, while slides are fashioned from solid steel bar stock. Frames are machined from solid aluminum forgings. The new Inox versions utilize the finest materials, difficult to machine but exceptionally corrosion resistant and durable.
21 Bobcat. Trustworthy and Precise.
Chambered for .22LR or .25ACP (6.35 mm). This compact, rugged small frame measures just 4.9 inches (125 mm) overall and weighs only 11.5 ounces (325 grams). It features a lightweight, alloy frame, blued steel slide, tip-up barrel, and double/single action. The Bobcat comes with a 7-round magazine for .22LR ammunition, or an 8 round magazine for .25 (6.35 mm)caliber cartridges.
21 Bobcat Inox.
This model has a stainless steel slide and barrel. The alloy frame is gray anodized to match the color and finish of the stainless components. The other metal parts (trigger, hammer, trigger guard, safety, magazine, etc.) are black finished.
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Semi-Automatic Pistols
Beretta Tomcat .32
by Gary G. NassLet me begin by saying that I fully expected some kind of malfunction with the gun. After all, it is a brand new pistol that has already suffered a recall because of serious failure to feed problems. But now, two months later, and after the forth delay, the Tomcat is out. I fired 50 rounds of Winchester 71 gr. FMJ and 55 rounds of Winchester 60 gr. Silvertip HP without a single malfunction of any kind. The gun performed flawlessly! Time will tell if this reliability trend continues, but it's a heck of a start. I would also like to point out that I fired almost all of the Silvertips from a fully loaded 7 round magazine to insure proper feeding from top to bottom. With an eighth bullet in the chamber via the tip-up barrel, you have the option of shooting the first round double action without having to rack the slide, or you can thumb-cock the hammer for all single action fire. The small slide pulled back easily with the help of about 13 grooves at the rear. The safety is frame mounted and easily manipulated with the thumb.
So what about accuracy? I was told by my dealer not to expect too much from this little gun. It has a very short barrel and small, all matte sights - notch in the rear and a blade up front with no dots to line up. No problem, the piece is meant for close range work where aiming isn't likely anyway. Now that I had my excuses lined up, I was ready to shoot. I used a 25 yard slow-fire pistol target with a 9.5" outer ring, taped to the heart area of a torso size cardboard silhouette. (Before I reveal the results of my shooting, let me stress that I am no Annie Oakley. I am normally a fair shot on a very good day.) At 7 yards and 1 shot/second deliberate aiming, my worst groups were always within about a 5" area. My best group to this point at 7 yards was 8 shots in 1.5" with the Silvertips. Most of the groups were low/left of center, but within the 6 ring. I moved the target out to 50 feet to see if I could qualify at that range with this little gun. I put 5 out of 7 in a 2.5" group with two flyers, the farthest being 7" from the group.
Okay, I took a moment to regain consciousness and decided to try some "real-life" drills. At ranges varying from 7 to 15 feet I "point-shot" rapid fire two to the body (vital area) one to the head successfully 5 out of 7 times. Once I nipped the left ear, and once I missed the head by about 2", again to the right of the left ear.
My hour was about up, and my target was full of tape, so I decided to take seven last shots at the head from 25'. I keyholed 4 out of 7 in a 1.25" group, and left the range more than satisfied.
Just a couple final comments: The two types of ammo I used both performed comparably, the only clear difference being the appearance of the hole it left in the paper. I expect more manufacturers to come out with a .32 round soon. I hear Hornady and Cor-Bon are ready to go with competition for Winchester. It will be tough to beat the performance of the silvertips though.
Although I wore hearing protection, it was obvious that the blast was considerably more than a .22, I would estimate it to be comparable to a light .38 round. Recoil was minimal, and made follow up shots fast and easy. (Probably a major contributing factor to my accuracy improvement, considering my other two handguns are a .357 snubbie and a .45)
Only two minor complaints: My double action first shots tended to end up about 6" below point of aim. The double action trigger pull seemed a little heavy, but I usually do pull down in double action anyway. Also in double action shots, the bottom of the trigger crowds my finger a bit, but in single action the trigger is perfect. Secondly, after 105 shots, my grips are a little loose, but I think I'll overlook that and keep the gun - real close.
I'm looking forward to hearing the reviews of other Tomcat owners as they receive this fine little Beretta.
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21 Bobcat Inox
| Model | Caliber | Magazine Capacity | Action | Total Length (mm/inch) | Barrel Length (mm/inch) | Total Thickness (mm/inch) | Total Height (mm/inch) | Sight Radius (mm/inch) | Weight Unloaded (gr/oz) |
| 21 Bobcat | 6.35 | 8 | Single/Double | 125/4.9 | 61/2.4 | 28/1.1 | 94/3.7 | 88/3.5 | 325/11.5 |
| 21 Bobcat | 22LR | 7 | Single/Double | 125/4.9 | 61/2.4 | 28/1.1 | 94/3.7 | 88/3.5 | 335/11.8 |
| 21 Bobcat Inox | 22LR | 7 | Single/Double | 125/4.9 | 61/2.4 | 28/1.1 | 94/3.7 | 88/3.5 | 335/11.8 |
