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Thermobaric Grenade Brings Down the House
A woman and two children in Afghanistan died on Sunday, the AP reports, after their house was "destroyed" in a U.S.-led raid. But the story may not be quite so simple.
During one of the engagements, several militants barricaded themselves in a building on the compound and engaged coalition forces with a high volume of gunfire. Coalition forces used a single grenade which killed the attacking militants," the statement said. "However, the building the militants were fighting from collapsed."
The implication is that it is surprising that a building should collapse under those circumstances, that it cannot have been just the grenade which did it. The MSNBC story suggests that one of the soldiers 'lobbed a grenade', reinforcing the impression that this was one of those 'pineapple' fragmentation hand grenades that were around circa WWII. But that's not what the coalition statement says.
I suspect that the grenade involved may have been the
"Commanders report that it has given them the capability needed for urban terrain and close-quarters cave operations," it was reported more recently. (My emphasis)
Thermobarics are renowned for their ability to demolish buildings, an effect of the prolonged overpressure produced by the blast. One brochure for the thermobaric SMAW-NE rocket bore the title 'thermobaric urban destruction' -- and showed what the warhead could do against buildings. In 2002, at Fort Leonard Wood, there was a demonstration of thermobaric infantry weapons with the title Bring Down The House.
Of course, there may be a different explanation. But when you give individual infantrymen increased firepower which includes the ability to demolish buildings, then a certain amount of additional collateral damage is not at all surprising.
UPDATE
Mud brick buildings - which comprise most village structures in Afghanistan - are much more prone to collapse than fired brick. And the power of thermobaric rounds can surprise their users, as this anecdote illustrates:
We got a batch of thermobaric rounds for our SMAW's in the Marine Corps just before the invasion of Iraq. They are already fairly powerful weapons. No one knew what to expect with the new rounds.
A friend of mine was attached to a battalion that was tasked with crossing a bridge while moving north toward Baghdad. On the other side of the bridge were two stone buildings, the bottom floors of which had been turned into reinforced bunkers. The Commander decided to let the SMAW gunners have a crack at them. Someone found the case with the new ammo and said, "Hey, why don't you see what these can do?"
The gunners crawled up to the near side of the river bank and took aim. On command, they both fired. WHAM! To everyone's astonishment, both buildings completely collapsed into piles of rocks. "That was cool. Do we have any more of those things?" was the Commander's response.
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By David Eshel - Defense Analyst |
The not so distant threat could involve a new terrorist weapon: the Thermobaric bombCanadian defense scientists are leading an international effort to devise protection against new and more powerful terrorist explosives designed to flatten buildings and rupture people's internal organs. This kind is of weapon, developed during the Cold War in the former Soviet Union, is known highly lethal in confined surroundings, such as underground tube systems and rail carriages.
Thermobaric WeaponsThe weapons he referred to apply to a wide range of thermobaric devices, which were used by Russia in the Chechnya campaign of 1999. A US Marine Corps study, based on interviews with Russian officers and Chechens, concluded that they were capable of killing troops in bunkers and destroying buildings that hadn't been reinforced. "Walls and surfaces do not necessarily shield victims," notes a US training manual.
Underground Transport TerrorismPerhaps the most dangerous targets for Thermobaric terrorism are the big city underground networks, counter terrorist experts warn.
Training First Responders Against Themobaric IEDOne area of concern, say counter insurgency experts, is the lack of adequate training available for first responders in how to identify and counter thermobaric weapons.
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This page will serve to assist in the identification of Russian grenades.
It should be noted that the size of the grenades are not in relation to each other.
Many thanks to the contributors of photos for this page, Erhard Koch, Bruno Marcusso, Ed Strazdes
and thanks to Kirill for identifying the ROG43 for us.
Stick Grenade | M1912 | M1914 | M1914 with supplemental charge |
M1917 Gas | Novikov & Feodorov | M1915 rifle | 40.6 mm Fragmentation |
RGD33 | RGD33 Practice | VGD | F1 with Koveshnikov fuze |
F1 with UZRGM fuze | URG | VKG40 | RPG40 |
RG41 | VPGS41 | RG42 | ROG43 |
Ceramic F1 | Mortar shell with Koveshikov fuze, also can be found with the UZRG fuze mechanism. | RPG43 | RPG-6 |
RGD-5 | URG-N | RKG-3 | UPG-8 |
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RGO | RGN |
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