PHOTO OF SPRING IS "GUARDIAN" DRAWBAR SPRING.
WELCOME TO THE NO BS ZONE OF TEDDY JACOBSON - IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH YOU HAVE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE.
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DISCLAIMER: EVERYTHING WRITTEN IS MY PERSONAL OPINION ONLY BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE AS A TRIGGER SPECIALIST. MY ACTION WORK IS SECOND TO NONE.
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DISCLAIMER: ALL OPINIONS STATED ON ALL
MY COMMENTARIES INCLUDING THIS ONE ARE
MY OWN OPINION AND OBSERVATIONS, THIS
IS ALL BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE AS A TRIGGER
SPECIALIST...
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EVERYTHING STATED IS MY PERSONAL OPINION ONLY.
I HAVE DECIDED TO WRITE MY OWN COMPARISON CHART IN REFERENCE TO BUYING A KELTEC P32 PISTOL (2nd Generation) VS. A NORTH AMERICAN ARMS GUARDIAN IN 32 ACP. BOTH PISTOLS COMPARED ARE IN 32 acp CALIBER.
THESE OPINIONS AND COMMENTS ARE MY PERSONAL VIEWPOINT ONLY BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. I DO BELIEVE THAT NAA MINI REVOLVERS ARE EXCELLENT BUT THIS CHART IS COMPARING SMALL SEMI AUTO PISTOLS ONLY. THIS CHART WILL HAVE NO REFLECTION ON NAA REVOLVERS.
I CAN NOT RECOMMEND THEIR 17 CALIBER REVOLVERS.
I DO RECOMMEND THEIR 22 LONG RIFLE AND 22 MAGNUM REVOLVERS.
ANYTHING I RATE USING A NUMBER IS THE FOLLOWING - ON A SCALE OF ONE TO TEN, ONE IS VERY POOR AND TEN IS VERY GOOD. IF YOU CAN NOT HANDLE THE TRUTH OF REALITY PLEASE LEAVE NOW.
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NAA GUARDIAN BREECH FACE & EXTRACTOR PROBLEM...................................................................................................
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NAA GUARDIAN POOR FACTORY STIPPLING AFTER BEAD BLASTING
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TYPE OF ACTION
KELTEC - SEMI AUTO
GUARDIAN - SEMI AUTO
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FRAME MATERIAL - (Corrected 3-14-07)
KELTEC - FRAME IS MADE OUT OF HARD ANODIZED 7071 ALUMINUM - PARTS ARE MOUNTED INSIDE FRAME.
GUARDIAN - STAINLESS STEEL
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TYPE OF ACTION
KELTEC - FIRES FROM A LOCKED BREECH
GUARDIAN - DIRECT BLOW BACK DESIGN
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SPRINGS
KELTEC - CHROME SILICON
GUARDIAN - MUSIC WIRE
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ESTIMATED TRIGGER PULL AS NEW
KELTEC - MY SCALE READS 5 LBS. DOUBLE ACTION ONLY
GUARDIAN - MY SCALE READS BETWEEN 11 TO 12 LBS. DOUBLE ACTION ONLY
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SIGHTS
KELTEC - POOR
GUARDIAN - POOR
I THINK THAT LARRY SEECAMP IS CORRECT WITH HIS 32 ACP PISTOL AND HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY SIGHTS.
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FEED RAMP
KELTEC - VERY GOOD FEED RAMP AND HAS PROPER THROATING.
GUARDIAN - POOR - note of caution that if you take too much metal off this
feed ramp you will put a hole in it because the recoil
spring tunnel is directly below the feed ramp.
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EJECTOR
KELTEC - VERY GOOD EJECTOR
GUARDIAN - THERE IS NO EJECTOR
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EXTRACTOR
KELTEC - VERY GOOD EXTRACTOR
GUARDIAN - WORTHLESS EXTRACTOR - I RATE THIS # 1
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GUIDE ROD
KELTEC - FULL LENGTH POLYMER GUIDE ROD
GUARDIAN - VERY SHORT GUIDE ROD ABOUT 1 INCH LONG - METAL
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RECOIL SPRING
KELTEC - DUAL SPRINGS - CHROME SILICON
GUARDIAN - DUAL SPRINGS - MUSIC WIRE
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FIRING PIN
KELTEC - WELL MADE FIRING PIN
GUARDIAN - SOFT FIRING PIN - MUSHROOMS AT REAR
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"E" RINGS
KELTEC - NONE THAT I COULD SEE UPON INSPECTION
GUARDIAN - INFERIOR "E" RING ON HAMMER PIN - SUGGESTED THE USE OF
SUPERIOR "SNAP RINGS" AND NAA REFUSED. I EVEN SENT THEM
WEBSITES OF WHERE TO BUY THEM.
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BREECH FACE
KELTEC - VERY WELL CUT
GUARDIAN - VERY POOR DESIGN WITH RADIUS OPPOSITE SIDE OF
EXTRACTOR.
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FIELD STRIPPING
KELTEC - HARD TO GET SLIDE STOP PIN OUT - VERY SECURE
GUARDIAN - HAS PUSH BUTTON LEVER THAT OFTEN HAS BROKEN. EASY TO
FIELD STRIP.
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BARREL
KELTEC - REMOVABLE BARREL
GUARDIAN - BARREL AND FRAME ARE ONE PIECE CASTING
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RIFLING OF BARREL
KELTEC - HAS DECENT RIFLING I RATE AT #7
GUARDIAN - POOR SHALLOW RIFLING. I RATE AT # 2
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CROWN AT MUZZLE
KELTEC - DECENT CROWN FOR A GUN OF THIS TYPE
GUARDIAN - POOR AT BEST
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COMPANY RELIABILITY
KELTEC - GOOD
GUARDIAN - GOOD
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GRIPS (made correction 3-14-07)
KELTEC - GRIPS ARE POLYMER
GUARDIAN - CHEAP PLASTIC GRIPS, REFUSED TO USE MICARTA AT MY
SUGGESTION. I EVEN SENT THEM WEBSITES OF WHERE TO BUY
THIS VERY THIN MICARTA.
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MATERIAL OF SLIDE
KELTEC - MOST ARE BLUED STEEL, OTHER FINISHES ARE AVAILABLE
GUARDIAN - STAINLESS STEEL
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APPROX. WHOLESALE PRICE
KELTEC - $200.00
GUARDIAN - $300.00
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AVAILABILITY
KELTEC - VERY POPULAR AND SELLING VERY FAST - VERY HARD TO FIND.
GUARDIAN - NOT IN CURRENT PRODUCTION - HAD TO CHANGE CASTING
VENDORS - SHOULD BE BACK INTO PRODUCTION SOON.
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CAPACITY - I AM GOING BY MEMORY
KELTEC - 7 PLUS 1
GUARDIAN - 6 PLUS 1
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ACCURACY
KELTEC - I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AS I CONSIDER All SMALL
SEMI AUTOS THIS SIZE TO BE USED FOR UNDER 5 FEET MAX.
GUARDIAN - I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH THIS FACTOR AS I CONSIDER
THIS PISTOL GOOD UP TO 5 FEET.
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TRIGGER BAR SPRING
KELTEC - I DO NOT KNOW
GUARDIAN - I HAVE SEEN THE DRAWBAR PLUNGER SPRING BREAK OFTEN
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LIFE OF PISTOL
KELTEC - 6000 ROUNDS
GUARDIAN - I DO NOT KNOW
TOMCAT - 3000 ROUNDS
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 Room_11_judge Message Board Member Username: Room_11_judge Post Number: 47 Registered: 07-2005 |
I'd rather carry a bat. To many bad experiences with NAA. | ||
    Cjw Message Board Member Username: Cjw Post Number: 1718 Registered: 12-2005 |
Room_11_Judge - Have you tried the NAA Mini revolvers or the larger Black Widows? I've come to like and trust both. But, I also like my 38 SP Lady Smith revolver that I carry with +P 125 grain JHP Lawman ammo in it. Same with my 9mm pistols, loaded with +P+ ammo, my 40 S&W pistols and 357 Magnum revolvers. I like 'em all. I see my NAA revolvers as, mostly, back up guns. CJ | ||
| Nasty_jack Message Board Member Username: Nasty_jack Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2007 |
I have at last count about a dozen and a half handguns . . . for "defense" . . . No junk. It's all Ruger, Springfield, Smith, NAA stuff. I have a Makarov and a CZ, but they're more like "military" than defense handguns. Nonetheless . . . Any time I've ever had a "jam" or a "misfire" it was because of the AMMO and not the gun. I've reloaded ammo and had it fail to feed, fail to fire. But factory ammo . . . Zero Defects. Clean gun, in good shape, ready to rock . . . They work. Never had one fail. Not with decent ammo. If you're having reliability issues, I'm betting it's ammo, not the gun. | ||
| Phydeaux88 Message Board Member Username: Phydeaux88 Post Number: 601 Registered: 11-2004 |
Don't pay any attention to Room-11. He only comes here to rag on NAA particularly Guardians. Ignore him and he will go away. | ||
| Cjw Message Board Member Username: Cjw Post Number: 1760 Registered: 12-2005 |
The question is: Which NAA Handgun Do You Trust Most? CJ PS - As to credibility, I've owned, shot and tested: 1) 77 handguns, 8 of them made by NAA 2) 79 rifles 3) 21 shotguns 4) 177 Total, but I'm sure others have owned more. |
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